A devotional composite showing the Ahobilam Narasimha temple hills, which Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu visited just before Siddhavata, alongside a Deity of Sri Vijaya Gauranga.

Ramadasa Brahmana

The Siddhavata Brahmana Whose Chanting Turned From Rama to Krishna

Also known as Ramadas Brahmana

  • Appeared: Not recorded, Probably Siddhavata or its surrounding region, South India
  • Disappeared: Not recorded, Not recorded; last mentioned residing at Siddhavata
  • Associates of Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu

“Sir, You are that Krishna Himself. This is my conclusion.”

Spoken to Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu at Siddhavata after Krishna's name replaced Rama's on his tongue (Chaitanya-charitamrita, Madhya-lila 9.37).

A Name Fixed by a Single Meeting #

At Siddhavata, a pilgrimage town near the great Vishnu temple of Sri Ranganatha in South India, Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu met a brahmana remembered in the tradition only as "Ramadasa Brahmana" - again, brahmana simply naming his caste, not his family. What Sri Chaitanya-charitamrita records of him is a single, tightly bounded episode: a devotee who had chanted Lord Ramachandra's holy name every day of his life, and who, after two brief visits from Mahaprabhu, found that name of Krishna had appeared on his tongue instead and would not leave.

DetailDescription
Met Sri Chaitanya MahaprabhuAt Siddhavata, near the Sri Ranganatha temple, during the Lord's South India tour
IdentityA brahmana devotee who chanted the holy name of Lord Ramachandra continuously, by his own account since childhood
Primary sourceSri Chaitanya-charitamrita, Madhya-lila, Chapter Nine (verses 17-38)
Best-known episodeFinding Krishna's holy name replacing Rama's on his tongue after seeing Mahaprabhu
What is not recordedHis birth and disappearance dates, his family, and any life before or after this one day

Not the Only Ramadasa on This Site #

Sri Chaitanya-charitamrita names at least three separate devotees called Ramadasa, all worshipers of Lord Ramachandra, all met independently by Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu, and this site now carries a page for each. Later in the very same chapter of Chaitanya-charitamrita, at southern Mathura (Madurai), Mahaprabhu meets a different brahmana Rama-bhakta, remembered here as Ramadasa Vipra. Years afterward, in Bengal and at Jagannatha Puri, a government official of the kayastha caste who served Raghunatha Bhatta Goswami on the road appears as Ramadasa Vishvasa. A fourth man of a similar name, Minaketana Ramadasa, was Nityananda Prabhu's own servant and is unrelated to any of these three; he appears on Krishnadasa Kaviraja Goswami's page. Chaitanya-charitamrita treats all of them as distinct people who never appear together.

A Lifelong Chanter of Rama's Name #

Mahaprabhu's tour through South India took Him first to see the Deity of Lord Nrisimha, and from there to Siddhavata, where He offered prayers before the Deity of Ramachandra, Lord of Sitadevi. It was there that this brahmana invited Him home for lunch. Krishnadasa Kaviraja Goswami is specific about the man's practice: he chanted Rama's holy name constantly, and Chaitanya-charitamrita says that apart from the sound of that name he barely spoke at all. Mahaprabhu accepted prasadam at his home and continued on His way, apparently no different from any other pilgrimage stop - the first of two visits that would together form this brahmana's entire recorded story, told in full in The Rama Bhakta Who Began Chanting Krishna's Name.

A Second Visit, A Different Name #

After visiting the temples of Skanda and of Trivikrama nearby, Mahaprabhu returned to the same house in Siddhavata - and found the brahmana now chanting the Hare Krishna maha-mantra instead of Rama's name alone. Asked directly why his lifelong practice had changed, the brahmana gave an answer that has since become one of the more quietly striking passages in Chaitanya-charitamrita: that seeing Mahaprabhu even once had fixed Krishna's name on his tongue so firmly that Rama's name, though he had chanted it since childhood, had receded from his heart.

Rama and Krishna, Weighed Against Each Other #

What makes this brief episode more than a simple conversion story is the theology the brahmana himself supplies for it, quoting scripture he already knew: verses holding that the names of Rama and Krishna stand on an equal footing as the Supreme Absolute Truth, yet citing further verses - from the Padma Purana and elsewhere - that describe Krishna's name as carrying, in a single utterance, the result of chanting Vishnu's thousand names three times over. He was not renouncing Rama; he was reporting, as a scholar of scripture himself, what he could no longer avoid concluding once he had seen Mahaprabhu face to face. "Sir, You are that Krishna Himself," he said, and fell at Mahaprabhu's feet.

What the Tradition Does and Doesn't Preserve #

Beyond this single day at Siddhavata, nothing else about this brahmana survives in Chaitanya-charitamrita or in any source this page could locate. No birth or disappearance date is recorded, no lineage, no later life, no writing of his own beyond the words Krishnadasa Kaviraja places in his mouth. Srila Prabhupada's own purports to this section explain the Sanskrit etymologies the brahmana cites but add no further biographical detail. What remains, honestly, is a single afternoon - though it is one of the clearest small illustrations in Chaitanya-charitamrita of Mahaprabhu's own teaching that the holy names of Krishna and Rama both call out to the same one Supreme Person, met here in the person of a brahmana who found that meeting could rewrite even a lifelong habit of the tongue.

Scriptural evidence

sei vipra rāma-nāma nirantara laya
'rāma' 'rāma' vinā anya vāṇī nā kahaya

Word for word

sei vipra — that brahmana; rāma-nāma — the holy name of Lord Ramachandra; nirantara laya — constantly chants; rāma rāma vinā — without the holy names Rama Rama; anya vāṇī — other vibration; nā kahaya — does not speak.

That brahmana constantly chanted the holy name of Ramachandra. Indeed, but for chanting Lord Ramachandra's holy name, that brahmana did not speak a word.

Madhya 9.19 Sri Chaitanya-charitamrita

Establishes how total this brahmana's lifelong absorption in Rama's holy name was, before his meeting with Mahaprabhu changed it.

Frequently asked

When was Ramadasa Brahmana born?

Ramadasa Brahmana appeared Not recorded in Probably Siddhavata or its surrounding region, South India.

When and where did Ramadasa Brahmana disappear?

Ramadasa Brahmana disappeared Not recorded at Not recorded; last mentioned residing at Siddhavata.

What are the main pastimes of Ramadasa Brahmana?

Dedicated pages on this site cover: The Rama Bhakta Who Began Chanting Krishna's Name.